Насущный вопрос о systemd. Не холливора ради

Лично мне интересно, что будет с поддержкой Debian GNU/kFreeBSD тоже на systemd переведут?
systemd работает исключительно в Linux
palpalych
jim945
А зачем на арче? Centos 7 с системд. Вполне комфортно, понятно (после арча), и стабильно.
да и серваком на арче проблем не испытываю...
Просто разворачивать арч на сотни машин не всегда удобно бывает. Поэтому дебиан выбирают.
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yaroslav
Смешно).
смешно пока всё работает, потом что-то отваливается и хз где искать.
Perfect_Gentleman
смешно пока всё работает, потом что-то отваливается и хз где искать.
Тогда мне кажется пора переходить на генту). Просто я не сталкивался с большими проблемами и с sysvinit, и с systemd.
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$ sudo systemctl -a
  UNIT                         LOAD      ACTIVE   SUB       DESCRIPTION
  proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount loaded    active   waiting   Arbitrary Executable
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dHGST_HUS724030ALE640_PK1234P8JGU6VP.device loaded    active
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dHGST_HUS724030ALE640_PK1234P8JGU6VP\x2dpart1.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dHGST_HUS724030ALE640_PK1234P8JGUYMP.device loaded    active
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dHGST_HUS724030ALE640_PK1234P8JGUYMP\x2dpart1.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dST2000DM001\x2d1CH164_Z1E11EXF.device loaded    active   pl
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dST2000DM001\x2d1CH164_Z1E11EXF\x2dpart1.device loaded    ac
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dWDC_WD2000FYYZ\x2d01UL1B1_WD\x2dWMC1P0352331.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dWDC_WD2000FYYZ\x2d01UL1B1_WD\x2dWMC1P0352331\x2dpart1.devic
  dev-disk-by\x2did-usb\x2dKingston_DataTraveler_2.0_001FD05EC537BDB0995E2031\x2d0:0.d
  dev-disk-by\x2did-usb\x2dKingston_DataTraveler_2.0_001FD05EC537BDB0995E2031\x2d0:0\x
  dev-disk-by\x2did-usb\x2dKingston_DataTraveler_2.0_001FD05EC537BDB0995E2031\x2d0:0\x
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000c5004dd73188.device loaded    active   plugged   ST20
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000c5004dd73188\x2dpart1.device loaded    active   plugg
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000cca22ce2eae1.device loaded    active   plugged   HGST
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000cca22ce2eae1\x2dpart1.device loaded    active   plugg
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000cca22ce2eda3.device loaded    active   plugged   HGST
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x5000cca22ce2eda3\x2dpart1.device loaded    active   plugg
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x50014ee0ae6bfc21.device loaded    active   plugged   WDC_
  dev-disk-by\x2did-wwn\x2d0x50014ee0ae6bfc21\x2dpart1.device loaded    active   plugg
  dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-HUS724030ALE.device loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HUS724030
  dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-root.device loaded    active   plugged   DataTraveler_2.0 root
  dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-ST2000DM001.device loaded    active   plugged   ST2000DM001-1CH
  dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-WD2000FYYZ.device loaded    active   plugged   WDC_WD2000FYYZ-0
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-HUS724030ALE640.device loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HU
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-root.device loaded    active   plugged   DataTraveler_2.0 r
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-ST2000DM001.device loaded    active   plugged   ST2000DM001
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-WD2000FYYZ.device loaded    active   plugged   WDC_WD2000FY
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-27a2092d\x2df311\x2d4ba4\x2d850b\x2d91e96ab36ef1.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-3f690978\x2df57b\x2d4b92\x2da06d\x2d69c670f46bdf.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-54ee3dbf\x2d24ab\x2d46c1\x2d8788\x2da21cb06b0417.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-6aafae12\x2d294c\x2d4c95\x2d8728\x2db58ef91ef464.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-b482b095\x2daf88\x2d4810\x2d9743\x2dbb850e86ac30.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpartuuid-d9134cfd\x2d4017\x2d4870\x2d8a89\x2dbacac05c78cf.device load
  dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:13.2\x2dusb\x2d0:1:1.0\x2dscsi\x2d0:0:0:0.device
  dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:13.2\x2dusb\x2d0:1:1.0\x2dscsi\x2d0:0:0:0\x2dpart
  dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:13.2\x2dusb\x2d0:1:1.0\x2dscsi\x2d0:0:0:0\x2dpart
  dev-disk-by\x2duuid-2b8c8b35\x2d1eac\x2d43ea\x2db8b5\x2dfee41172ca3c.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2duuid-3f27dd62\x2dc9bf\x2d43e8\x2d8782\x2d659d90518115.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2duuid-42930ae1\x2de4ca\x2d4f7b\x2daf90\x2ddcaadff6797f.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2duuid-bb168213\x2dfb93\x2d4308\x2d926c\x2d6f6e1c2e61e6.device loaded
  dev-disk-by\x2duuid-f2ffc3c4\x2dc806\x2d49f5\x2dac79\x2d63acdc9ff9d3.device loaded
  dev-sda.device               loaded    active   plugged   WDC_WD2000FYYZ-01UL1B1
  dev-sda1.device              loaded    active   plugged   WDC_WD2000FYYZ-01UL1B1 WD2
  dev-sdb.device               loaded    active   plugged   ST2000DM001-1CH164
  dev-sdb1.device              loaded    active   plugged   ST2000DM001-1CH164 ST2000D
  dev-sdc.device               loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HUS724030ALE640
  dev-sdc1.device              loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HUS724030ALE640 HUS72
  dev-sdd.device               loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HUS724030ALE640
  dev-sdd1.device              loaded    active   plugged   HGST_HUS724030ALE640 HUS72
  dev-sde.device               loaded    active   plugged   DataTraveler_2.0
  dev-sde1.device              loaded    active   plugged   DataTraveler_2.0 root
  dev-sde2.device              loaded    active   plugged   DataTraveler_2.0 2
  dev-ttyS0.device             loaded    active   plugged   /dev/ttyS0
  dev-ttyS1.device             loaded    active   plugged   /dev/ttyS1
  dev-ttyS2.device             loaded    active   plugged   /dev/ttyS2
  dev-ttyS3.device             loaded    active   plugged   /dev/ttyS3
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:06.0-0000:02:00.0-net-enp2s0.device loaded    active
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.de
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda.device
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata2-host1-target1:0:0-1:0:0:0-block-sdb-sdb1.de
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata2-host1-target1:0:0-1:0:0:0-block-sdb.device
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata3-host2-target2:0:0-2:0:0:0-block-sdc-sdc1.de
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata3-host2-target2:0:0-2:0:0:0-block-sdc.device
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata4-host3-target3:0:0-3:0:0:0-block-sdd-sdd1.de
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:11.0-ata4-host3-target3:0:0-3:0:0:0-block-sdd.device
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:13.2-usb5-5\x2d1-5\x2d1:1.0-host4-target4:0:0-4:0:0:0
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:13.2-usb5-5\x2d1-5\x2d1:1.0-host4-target4:0:0-4:0:0:0
  sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:13.2-usb5-5\x2d1-5\x2d1:1.0-host4-target4:0:0-4:0:0:0
  sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS0.device loaded    active   plugged   /sys/d
  sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS1.device loaded    active   plugged   /sys/d
  sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS2.device loaded    active   plugged   /sys/d
  sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS3.device loaded    active   plugged   /sys/d
  sys-module-configfs.device   loaded    active   plugged   /sys/module/configfs
  sys-subsystem-net-devices-enp2s0.device loaded    active   plugged   NetXtreme BCM57
  -.mount                      loaded    active   mounted   /
  dev-hugepages.mount          loaded    active   mounted   Huge Pages File System
  dev-mqueue.mount             loaded    active   mounted   POSIX Message Queue File S
  home-HUS724030ALE640_1.mount loaded    active   mounted   /home/HUS724030ALE640_1
  home-HUS724030ALE640_2.mount loaded    active   mounted   /home/HUS724030ALE640_2
  home-ST2000DM001.mount       loaded    active   mounted   /home/ST2000DM001
  home-WD2000FYYZ.mount        loaded    active   mounted   /home/WD2000FYYZ
  proc-fs-nfsd.mount           loaded    active   mounted   NFSD configuration filesys
  proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount loaded    inactive dead      Arbitrary Executable File
  run-user-1000.mount          loaded    active   mounted   /run/user/1000
  sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount loaded    inactive dead      FUSE Control File System
  sys-kernel-config.mount      loaded    active   mounted   Configuration File System
  sys-kernel-debug.mount       loaded    active   mounted   Debug File System
  tmp.mount                    loaded    active   mounted   Temporary Directory
  var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount loaded    active   mounted   RPC Pipe File System
  systemd-ask-password-console.path loaded    active   waiting   Dispatch Password Req
  systemd-ask-password-wall.path loaded    active   waiting   Forward Password Request
  session-c6.scope             loaded    active   running   Session c6 of user perfect
● auditd.service               not-found inactive dead      auditd.service
  auth-rpcgss-module.service   loaded    inactive dead      Kernel Module supporting R
  dbus.service                 loaded    active   running   D-Bus System Message Bus
● display-manager.service      not-found inactive dead      display-manager.service
  dm-event.service             loaded    inactive dead      Device-mapper event daemon
  emergency.service            loaded    inactive dead      Emergency Shell
  [email protected]           loaded    active   running   Getty on tty1
● gssproxy.service             not-found inactive dead      gssproxy.service
  kmod-static-nodes.service    loaded    active   exited    Create list of required st
  ldconfig.service             loaded    inactive dead      Rebuild Dynamic Linker Cac
  logrotate.service            loaded    inactive dead      Rotate log files
  man-db.service               loaded    inactive dead      Update man-db cache
  mkinitcpio-generate-shutdown-ramfs.service loaded    inactive dead      Generate shu
  nfs-config.service           loaded    active   exited    Preprocess NFS configurati
  nfs-idmapd.service           loaded    active   running   NFSv4 ID-name mapping serv
  nfs-mountd.service           loaded    active   running   NFS Mount Daemon
  nfs-server.service           loaded    active   exited    NFS server and services
  nfs-utils.service            loaded    inactive dead      NFS server and client serv
● plymouth-quit-wait.service   not-found inactive dead      plymouth-quit-wait.service
● plymouth-start.service       not-found inactive dead      plymouth-start.service
  rescue.service               loaded    inactive dead      Rescue Shell
  rpc-gssd.service             loaded    inactive dead      RPC security service for N
  rpc-statd-notify.service     loaded    active   exited    Notify NFS peers of a rest
  rpc-statd.service            loaded    active   running   NFS status monitor for NFS
  rpc-svcgssd.service          loaded    inactive dead      RPC security service for N
  rpcbind.service              loaded    active   running   RPC bind service
  shadow.service               loaded    inactive dead      Verify integrity of passwo
  sshd.service                 loaded    inactive dead      OpenSSH Daemon
  [email protected]:22-192.168.88.11:41951.service loaded    active   running   Open
  sshdgenkeys.service          loaded    inactive dead      SSH Key Generation
● syslog.service               not-found inactive dead      syslog.service
  systemd-ask-password-console.service loaded    inactive dead      Dispatch Password
  systemd-ask-password-wall.service loaded    inactive dead      Forward Password Requ
  systemd-binfmt.service       loaded    inactive dead      Set Up Additional Binary F
  systemd-firstboot.service    loaded    inactive dead      First Boot Wizard
  systemd-fsck-root.service    loaded    inactive dead      File System Check on Root
  systemd-initctl.service      loaded    inactive dead      /dev/initctl Compatibility
  systemd-journal-catalog-update.service loaded    inactive dead      Rebuild Journal
  systemd-journal-flush.service loaded    active   exited    Trigger Flushing of Journ
  systemd-journald.service     loaded    active   running   Journal Service
  systemd-logind.service       loaded    active   running   Login Service
  systemd-modules-load.service loaded    active   exited    Load Kernel Modules
  systemd-networkd.service     loaded    active   running   Network Service
  systemd-random-seed.service  loaded    active   exited    Load/Save Random Seed
  systemd-remount-fs.service   loaded    active   exited    Remount Root and Kernel Fi
  systemd-shutdownd.service    loaded    inactive dead      Delayed Shutdown Service
  systemd-sysctl.service       loaded    active   exited    Apply Kernel Variables
  systemd-sysusers.service     loaded    inactive dead      Create System Users
  systemd-timesyncd.service    loaded    active   running   Network Time Synchronizati
  systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service loaded    inactive dead      Cleanup of Temporary Dir
  systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service loaded    active   exited    Create Static Device
  systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service loaded    active   exited    Create Volatile Files an
  systemd-udev-hwdb-update.service loaded    inactive dead      Rebuild Hardware Datab
  systemd-udev-trigger.service loaded    active   exited    udev Coldplug all Devices
  systemd-udevd.service        loaded    active   running   udev Kernel Device Manager
  systemd-update-done.service  loaded    inactive dead      Update is Completed
  systemd-update-utmp.service  loaded    active   exited    Update UTMP about System B
  systemd-user-sessions.service loaded    active   exited    Permit User Sessions
  systemd-vconsole-setup.service loaded    active   exited    Setup Virtual Console
  [email protected]            loaded    active   running   User Manager for UID 1000
  -.slice                      loaded    active   active    Root Slice
  system-getty.slice           loaded    active   active    system-getty.slice
  system-sshd.slice            loaded    active   active    system-sshd.slice
  system-systemd\x2dfsck.slice loaded    inactive dead      system-systemd\x2dfsck.sli
  system.slice                 loaded    active   active    System Slice
  user-1000.slice              loaded    active   active    user-1000.slice
  user.slice                   loaded    active   active    User and Session Slice
  dbus.socket                  loaded    active   running   D-Bus System Message Bus S
  dm-event.socket              loaded    active   listening Device-mapper event daemon
  rpcbind.socket               loaded    active   running   RPCbind Server Activation
  sshd.socket                  loaded    active   listening sshd.socket
  syslog.socket                loaded    inactive dead      Syslog Socket
  systemd-initctl.socket       loaded    active   listening /dev/initctl Compatibility
  systemd-journald-dev-log.socket loaded    active   running   Journal Socket (/dev/lo
  systemd-journald.socket      loaded    active   running   Journal Socket
  systemd-shutdownd.socket     loaded    active   listening Delayed Shutdown Socket
  systemd-udevd-control.socket loaded    active   running   udev Control Socket
  systemd-udevd-kernel.socket  loaded    active   running   udev Kernel Socket
  basic.target                 loaded    active   active    Basic System
  cryptsetup.target            loaded    active   active    Encrypted Volumes
  emergency.target             loaded    inactive dead      Emergency Mode
  getty.target                 loaded    active   active    Login Prompts
  graphical.target             loaded    active   active    Graphical Interface
  local-fs-pre.target          loaded    active   active    Local File Systems (Pre)
  local-fs.target              loaded    active   active    Local File Systems
  multi-user.target            loaded    active   active    Multi-User System
  network-online.target        loaded    active   active    Network is Online
  network-pre.target           loaded    inactive dead      Network (Pre)
  network.target               loaded    active   active    Network
  nss-lookup.target            loaded    active   active    Host and Network Name Look
  nss-user-lookup.target       loaded    inactive dead      User and Group Name Lookup
  paths.target                 loaded    active   active    Paths
  remote-fs-pre.target         loaded    inactive dead      Remote File Systems (Pre)
  remote-fs.target             loaded    active   active    Remote File Systems
  rescue.target                loaded    inactive dead      Rescue Mode
  rpcbind.target               loaded    active   active    RPC Port Mapper
  shutdown.target              loaded    inactive dead      Shutdown
  slices.target                loaded    active   active    Slices
  sockets.target               loaded    active   active    Sockets
● swap.target                  masked    inactive dead      swap.target
  sysinit.target               loaded    active   active    System Initialization
  time-sync.target             loaded    active   active    System Time Synchronized
  timers.target                loaded    active   active    Timers
  umount.target                loaded    inactive dead      Unmount All Filesystems
  logrotate.timer              loaded    active   waiting   Daily rotation of log file
  man-db.timer                 loaded    active   waiting   Daily man-db cache update
  shadow.timer                 loaded    active   waiting   Daily verification of pass
  systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer loaded    active   waiting   Daily Cleanup of Temporary
это на файлопомойке без ИКСов.

а это на десктопе с КЕДами
$ sudo rc-status -a
Runlevel: default
 localmount                                                              [  started  ]
 bootmisc                                                                [  started  ]
 syslog-ng                                                               [  started  ]
 razerd                                                                  [  started  ]
 dbus                                                                    [  started  ]
 consolekit                                                              [  started  ]
 xdm                                                                     [  started  ]
 net.eth0                                                                [  started  ]
 nfsmount                                                                [  started  ]
 amuled                                                                  [  started  ]
 chronyd                                                                 [  started  ]
 minidlna                                                                [  started  ]
 local                                                                   [  started  ]
Runlevel: sysinit
 devfs                                                                   [  started  ]
 kmod-static-nodes                                                       [  started  ]
 sysfs                                                                   [  started  ]
 dmesg                                                                   [  started  ]
 tmpfiles.dev                                                            [  started  ]
 udev                                                                    [  started  ]
Runlevel: boot
 hwclock                                                                 [  started  ]
 modules                                                                 [  started  ]
 fsck                                                                    [  started  ]
 root                                                                    [  started  ]
 mtab                                                                    [  started  ]
 localmount                                                              [  started  ]
 procfs                                                                  [  started  ]
 hostname                                                                [  started  ]
 sysctl                                                                  [  started  ]
 bootmisc                                                                [  started  ]
 termencoding                                                            [  started  ]
 loopback                                                                [  started  ]
 urandom                                                                 [  started  ]
 keymaps                                                                 [  started  ]
 alsasound                                                               [  started  ]
 tmpfiles.setup                                                          [  started  ]
Runlevel: shutdown
 killprocs                                                               [  stopped  ]
 savecache                                                               [  stopped  ]
 mount-ro                                                                [  stopped  ]
Dynamic Runlevel: hotplugged
Dynamic Runlevel: needed
 rpcbind                                                                 [  started  ]
 rpc.pipefs                                                              [  started  ]
 rpc.idmapd                                                              [  started  ]
 rpc.statd                                                               [  started  ]
 xdm-setup                                                               [  started  ]
Dynamic Runlevel: manual
разница, по-моему, очевидна
Perfect_Gentleman
разница, по-моему, очевидна
второй вариант не информативен! )))
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nafanja
второй вариант не информативен! )))
ога, если не уметь читать.
Perfect_Gentleman
разница, по-моему, очевидна
Мда, действительно. Но системд сейчас отвечает за любой чих. Так что неудивительно.
PGP: 0xB8C89275ACC50145. Arch GNU/Linux, KDE 5.
Мы за Newnix
Perfect_Gentleman
разница, по-моему, очевидна
уберите из этого все что не *.service, т.к. эт немного из другой серии и получите то же самое. "Регексп" для грепа "\.service" =)
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arcanisrepo
 
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